I wasn’t sure whether to put this in the for sale forum or here in the vintage one. I tossed a coin.

I used to race every Sunday in Hull in the early nineties, but stopped at the age of 18 when I went away to university and was thus without a car to drive myself to race meetings in. All my cars and equipment went in to my Dad’s loft and was forgotten about. He moved house a few times over the years, but kept it all in storage … until now. He’s buggered off to France, and given me back all of my R/C stuff.

The sad part is, I’ve no desire to start racing again and nowhere to keep all this stuff. So it’s got to go. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on how/where to sell it—or even if anyone wanted it.

This lot hasn’t been used in around twelve years, but it has been stored carefully. I figure the batteries will be no use to man or beast any more, and don’t know whether the motors will be worth trying to run after sitting for that length of time … but all the cars and spares are just fine. The cars in fact look to be in fantastic condition!

Here’s what I’ve got:

Yokomo YZ10 Super Dogfighter
I even have the original box and instruction manual with this.

Associated RC10
This one has story to it. Was converted to 4WD by MIP over in the States. Apparently there were very few of these ever brought to the UK (four, maybe five?). The kit has been removed to leave the car in almost standard 2WD form, but the parts are all still here—including specially toughened front driveshafts which were meant for the MIP owner’s own car (he gave them to me at the ’93 worlds).

3x Schumacher Cougar 2
I have a bunch of these. My Cougar 2 Works which was my main racer, a standard Cougar 2 which I raced in an off-road saloon stock class, and a ‘spares’ chassis. Also enough spare parts to probably build a fourth. My main Works racer lacks the fancy Works driveshafts, as I often raced it in truck form and those things couldn’t handle the stress of big wheels.

These cars were all in race-ready condition when packed away for storage. The Cougar 2 Works is running Kyosho Gold shocks, the YZ10 has Associated shocks all round … the cars had lots of tweaks here and there.

I have two big boxes full of tyres to suit both off-road and indoor (carpet/wood) racing—4WD, 2WD and truck sizes. All used, but not badly worn.

Spares and tools for all the cars—full MIP 4WD conversion for the RC10, spare chassis for that and the Cougars, and so on. Lots of suspension parts, spring sets for adjusting ride, full sets of pinions and drive gears for changing ratio, all that sort of thing.

Three transmitters (two stick, one trigger), full set of frequency crystals.

Six or seven motors, modified and stock. Not sure how much good these will be after twelve years in storage.

Piles of batteries, again not sure that these will be any use. Panasonic and Fabiix sticks, saddle packs of Fabiix and Sanyos.

Swanky peak charger and a more standard unbranded one.

Very nice Nosram speedo and an okay Tekin one.

Two or three steering servos.

Bunch of bodyshells, some better painted than others (I was good with the old airbrush, but I was young and had dubious taste. Some have not stood the test of time well).

There’s probably more … I think I can see a whole Cougar 2 gearbox in one of the bags of spares … but I’ll stop there and post a few blurry cameraphone photos.

Anyone got any thoughts on what I should do with this lot?

That’s my YZ10 at the top, a couple of the Cougars to the left and my RC10 on the right, without it’s shocks but still sporting some BRCA numbers!

Spare parts, wheels and tyres galore … and my old truck bodyshell at the bottom-right which made it as far as the lofty heights of being photographed in Radio Race Car magazine. Or maybe it was RCMC … I forget.

Bit more of a close-up on the Cougars … the rainbow-striped one was my main racer. I had so much fun with that thing. This is probably the best shot I have left of the YZ10, which had a paint job I was really proud of.

Here’s the RC10. You can see the front gearbox and belt for the 4WD conversion sitting on the floor next to it. I dyed all of it’s nylon parts dark blue to match the paintwork … shame the paintwork was pig-ugly!

There’s a fair few tyres in there! Also a pretty nice peak charger that I can’t for the life of me remember how to work.

Hello PopRock,

I'd be very interested in the YZ10 and maybe one or all of the Cougars :)

Drop me a Private Message using the button below, and maybe we can talk more?

Cheers,

Tom

:joker: i thought if it wasn't you it would have been matt in there for the YZ10 Tom

Poprock if you are not going to use them again i would say there would be a few people on here who would be interested in some of those ;)

Mmmm Yokomo YZ10 Super Dogfighter..... Yes Pleeeeeeease


Oh if only i had some spare Cash !!!! :crying: :crying:


Oh and the Charger is a Tekomo Pro Slope. Remember them well, were a Good Charger.

Oh and 93 Worlds.... I was There also. have a look on the vid section on here, there's the Finals of 2WD & 4WD.


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Which is temp offline while I sort out my hosting.. :oops:

PM me for the Vid if you'd like a copy :)

You've got too many already Rice Boy!

Look at my sig.. I'm far more needy than him :joker: :joker:

But not as Neady as ME !!!!!


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damn looks like i've missed out on another yz10 :crying:

tom u already got a yz10 so i reckon u shud let me have it :P :lol:

u got any cougars left? :lol:

been looking for 1 for a while, if you still have 1 could you pm me what sort of price your after?

might be interested in more info/pics of the 4wd rc10

I’d love to drive these cars again, but I really don’t have the spare time to get back into the game prooperly and can’t justify the expense of batteries etc just to give them an occasional blast around the park.

I think what I’ll do is try to get some better photos taken so you guys know what they’re actually like—some with the bodyshells off would be a good start, I know! I’ve just got these things packed away in my garage, so it’ll probably be later in the week before I take ’em out again to get shots of.

I’ll not promise the cars to anyone until you’ve all had the chance to see some decent photos. Hope that makes some kind of sense.

Thanks everyone for replying so quickly (or is that just the result of a wet and windy Bank Holiday Monday? ;) )

Russ, you’re dead right: Tekomo Pro Slope. It was on the tip of my tongue, honest.

I did see the vids of the ’93 worlds, that must have been why I already had a bookmark for this website … I spotted those a while ago and enjoyed reliving it!

I’m going to try coming clean here and admiting that I don’t have a clue what my gear is worth in this day and age. I realise that it’s relying on the kindness of strangers a bit, but so long as these cars go to a loving home I won’t be too bothered. Anyone feel like giving me a clue as to what the cars should be selling for?

I know the 4WD RC10 is rare, but I also know that it’s rare for a reason: They weren’t very good! Well, they were difficult to keep running reliably on muddy UK racetracks. Any car that can make the top ten against a field of YZ10s at the worlds can’t be all bad. I used to race it 4WD indoors over the winter season and just forget about it on the grass in the summer. The looks on people’s faces were hilarious if they didn’t know the car. I’ll need to investigate further and see just what sort of condition all the 4WD conversion parts are in. I suspect spares would be utterly impossible to source nowadays.

hopefully some1 will be able to help you out with what there worth, i wish i could but i dont have a clue!

when you have an idea of what the cougars are worth could you let me know please, having a cougar again will be like a trip back in time for me i used to love mine!

I swear, of all the cars I ever owned, the Cougar 2s were the most pure, simple fun. Even more so on messy outdoor tracks with truck wheels and beefed up suspension!

Hey mate.. Yes I think the Wet Bank holiday has kept us all glued to our PCs!!

As for value.. it's hard as it depends purely on condition with RC cars that have been run. New unbuilt cars can be worth quite a sum, mainly due to their rarity. NIB YZ10's are maybe worth £200-275 on a good day, Cougars maybe £130 - 150? The MIP RC10 is almost impossible to value!

Cars that have been run can be worth anything from 99p (ask purpletimbo, he's bought enough unloved stuff on ebay!!) to maybe half of their new unbuilt value.

For reference, I bought a built never run YZ10 like yours for £120 - that was a top spec machine though with all the upgrades. A Cougar 2 that was run once I paid £45 for around xmas last year.

All depends on condition I Spose, thanks for offering to take some better photos.

I'm sure one way or another we can relieve you of your old stuff though :)

Count me out, they are all worth far more than my price bracket :joker: :joker: :joker:
Seriously though welcome aboard and good luck, if I raced I'd be fighting for the YZ-10 at the correct price. I'm sure I have one shelf spare in a shed somewhere :D

any news on prices ive got cougar on the brain lol!

I’ve been out taking pictures this afternoon.

Here’s some of the YZ10:








This must have been the last car I used, all the electrics are still in it. Including my Nosram Dominator speedo, which I really liked, and a teeny-tiny Gem lightweight receiver. The motor’s an AGR Works Spec modified, but damned if I can remember what exctly it was. There’s at least another five motors in one of my bags full of spares anyway.

Some shots of my Cougar 2 Works. I never actually bought a full C2 Works, or a full Cougar kit for that matter. I had a Topcat many many years ago and just slowly upgraded it as newer models came on the scene. I ended up with three or four full cars all at varying Cougar 2 or Storm specs. Must’ve spent a fortune at the time!








The motor’s a Demon modified of some flavour or other. Standard spec driveshafts rather than Works spec, because the works spec ones used to shear off when you tired to run it with big truck wheels. The steering’s ballraced, and so on. I have a huge bag full of of Cougar parts, but haven’t dug through to see what they all are.

This is the other Cougar 2 I have built up and running.

Standard Schumacher shocks, unlike the Kyosho Golds on the other one. Standard drive train instead of the Works one, non-ballraced steering, etc. I ran this as a saloon in the stock class at my local club, hence the dirt cover rather than a proper bodyshell. I think it was disguised as a Porsche 911, A BMW M3, and a Corvette Stingray at various times in it’s racing life. That’ll be a stock motor of some sort in the back end. This one was set up to run on stick batteries, rather than saddle packs.

Finally, my RC10. This has no shocks or tyres fitted at the moment. I know there’s at least one set of shocks in my bags and boxes of parts, not sure what kind. I think the Associated ones from this car ended up on my YZ10.

This RC10 was converted to 4WD and back again. I still have all the 4WD parts, but they probably need a bit of TLC. The belt is most likely twisted from being stored away, for instance.

You can see a slot in the front suspension mount, this is where the front differential bolts in, the driveshafts from that run through special steering blocks that aren’t on the car at the moment. On the gearbox, you can see a hole in the casing—that middle gear gets replaced with one that has an extra-long pin, that sticks through the hole and runs the belt, over the little tensioner ballrace that’s visible and through the hole cut in the rear suspension mount.







I think that’s a Cougar 1 wing mount on the back … most likely I fitted that because I was using it to seat body mounts on for running the 4WD RC10 in a saloon class at some point.

I should imagine that under the protective tape on the RC10, the chassis is as new?

If so, that chassis would be worth a fortune (£50 maybe more) on somewhere like RC10Talk.com. The rest of the car isn't worth too much I'm afraid as most of the bits are still available new from AE.

The Cougar Works tranny is v.rare.. shame you haven't got a purple chassis to go with it in good condition.. The pair might be worth £60 to a schumacher collector.

The YZ10 I like :) Would be the perfect vintage runner to go with my shelf queen.. :D

i think £60 is out of my price range, postage would cost a fortune on top of that?

shame i was lookin forward to cougar'n it again :( :crying: :banghead:

That’s a (quite thick) Teflon protector on the underside of the RC10 chassis. I assume the blue chassis is spotless underneath it, but I’m not sure how cleanly the Teflon would come off. I do have a spare chassis as well though … black anodised and very shiny.

Lozi, I’m thinking the best thing to do may be send a big box with everything I have southwards … if some of you guys live near(ish) to each other, you could divvy it up between yourselves rather than me splitting it up and mailing it to different places. What would anyone think of that plan? It could save a fortune in delivery costs.

i would be up for that, im after everything i can get cougar! not sure i live near any1 else who is interested tho

Ooh.. I need a new RC10 chassis as well. :)

By All means send it all to Lozi and we can deal with it from there.


I live in Essex by the way...

or you could send the Cougar stuff to Lozi and the Associated Yokomo to me? Is that too much hassle for you mate?



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second idea seems to make sense slightly more if it wasnt hassle or to much £, im in northampton

Any News?

Sorry, I was just giving it a few days to see if anyone else was still interested, or if it was down to you and Tom splitting it halfway.

If you want to take the Cougars and Tom wants to take to Associated and Yokomo, that's cool with me. Just need to figure out how to get ’em down to you. I’ll drop you each a PM about price and we can go from there. As for delivery, the cars aren’t too much bother, but the huge pile of additional kit might be more troublesome, so we’ll need to see if there’s any of it you don’t actually want. No point paying out to send stuff if it’s just going in the bin.

Cheers matey. Let me have a think about exactly what I want and I'll give you a shout back shortly :)

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So then …

Lozi has my Cougars, Tom should have my YZ10 by now. I still have the mega-strange MIP 4WD RC10 to sell.

Let me know how you guys get on with the cars!

i'm half tempted for the rc10 4wd, but i need a car for racing, prob not the best car for racing as spares etc?

Funny you should say that matt, but spares availability for RC10 team cars is excellent. Just take a look at tower hobbies or stormer hobbies online.

The bits that break/wear are all available. Shells you can get new from AE too.

Bearings are standard, as are shocks.

I'd say go for it :)

It would be fine for racing as a 2WD, but I wouldn’t recommend trying to race it regularly in 4WD form. As you say, no spares. The front driveshafts tended to bend under rough use.

yeah i'd be after running it 4wd.

i'm not really into 2wd cars in fact i've never had one lol

im very happy with cougars thank you, i put the tekin speedo and the acoms reciever in the works 1 and 1 of my stickpacks and it worked straight away no hassle, pretty quick to! cant belive after all those years the motor is still rapid!

i have converted the other cougar to a truck with the shell and wheels, i just need a reciever to test that out!



cheers mate nice 1 :thumbs_up: